{"id":3299,"date":"2024-12-29T13:31:19","date_gmt":"2024-12-29T12:31:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.geopolitics.fr\/?p=3299"},"modified":"2024-12-29T17:11:38","modified_gmt":"2024-12-29T16:11:38","slug":"erwan-davoux-under-hollande-and-macron-our-foreign-policy-has-experienced-a-very-significant-decline","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.geopolitics.fr\/en\/2024\/12\/29\/erwan-davoux-sous-hollande-et-macron-notre-politique-etrangere-a-connu-un-declassement-tres-important\/","title":{"rendered":"Erwan Davoux: \u00abUnder Hollande and Macron, our foreign policy has experienced a very significant decline\u00bb"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-afrique-conflit-israelo-palestinien-dependance-americaine-ukraine-place-et-role-du-quai-d-orsay\">Africa, Israeli-Palestinian conflict, American dependence, Ukraine, the place and role of the Quai d\u2019Orsay<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/putsch.media\/20241220\/interviews\/interviews-franc-tireurs\/erwan-davoux-sous-hollande-et-macron-notre-politique-etrangere-a-connu-un-declassement-tres-important\/\"><em><strong>Erwan Davoux: \u00abUnder Hollande and Macron, our foreign policy has experienced a very significant decline\u00bb \u2013 Interviews with franc-tireurs \u2013 Putsch<\/strong><\/em><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sharer\/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fputsch.media%2F20241220%2Finterviews%2Finterviews-franc-tireurs%2Ferwan-davoux-sous-hollande-et-macron-notre-politique-etrangere-a-connu-un-declassement-tres-important%2F\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?via=PutschMedia&amp;text=Erwan%20Davoux%3A%20%22Sous%20Hollande%20et%20Macron%2C%20notre%20politique%20%C3%A9trang%C3%A8re%20a%20connu%20un%20d%C3%A9classement%20tr%C3%A8s%20important%22&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fputsch.media%2F20241220%2Finterviews%2Finterviews-franc-tireurs%2Ferwan-davoux-sous-hollande-et-macron-notre-politique-etrangere-a-connu-un-declassement-tres-important%2F\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/api.whatsapp.com\/send?text=Erwan%20Davoux%3A%20%22Sous%20Hollande%20et%20Macron%2C%20notre%20politique%20%C3%A9trang%C3%A8re%20a%20connu%20un%20d%C3%A9classement%20tr%C3%A8s%20important%22%20https%3A%2F%2Fputsch.media%2F20241220%2Finterviews%2Finterviews-franc-tireurs%2Ferwan-davoux-sous-hollande-et-macron-notre-politique-etrangere-a-connu-un-declassement-tres-important%2F\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/putsch.media\/20241220\/interviews\/interviews-franc-tireurs\/erwan-davoux-sous-hollande-et-macron-notre-politique-etrangere-a-connu-un-declassement-tres-important\/\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/putsch.media\/20241220\/interviews\/interviews-franc-tireurs\/erwan-davoux-sous-hollande-et-macron-notre-politique-etrangere-a-connu-un-declassement-tres-important\/\"><\/a>France\u2019s African policy, seeking renewal, seems stuck in a cycle of strategic errors and diplomatic ineptitude. In this incisive interview, we explore with Erwan Davoux the paths to an ambitious overhaul of relations between Paris and its African partners.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sharer\/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fputsch.media%2F20241220%2Finterviews%2Finterviews-franc-tireurs%2Ferwan-davoux-sous-hollande-et-macron-notre-politique-etrangere-a-connu-un-declassement-tres-important%2F\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?via=PutschMedia&amp;text=Erwan%20Davoux%3A%20%22Sous%20Hollande%20et%20Macron%2C%20notre%20politique%20%C3%A9trang%C3%A8re%20a%20connu%20un%20d%C3%A9classement%20tr%C3%A8s%20important%22&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fputsch.media%2F20241220%2Finterviews%2Finterviews-franc-tireurs%2Ferwan-davoux-sous-hollande-et-macron-notre-politique-etrangere-a-connu-un-declassement-tres-important%2F\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/api.whatsapp.com\/send?text=Erwan%20Davoux%3A%20%22Sous%20Hollande%20et%20Macron%2C%20notre%20politique%20%C3%A9trang%C3%A8re%20a%20connu%20un%20d%C3%A9classement%20tr%C3%A8s%20important%22%20https%3A%2F%2Fputsch.media%2F20241220%2Finterviews%2Finterviews-franc-tireurs%2Ferwan-davoux-sous-hollande-et-macron-notre-politique-etrangere-a-connu-un-declassement-tres-important%2F\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/putsch.media\/20241220\/interviews\/interviews-franc-tireurs\/erwan-davoux-sous-hollande-et-macron-notre-politique-etrangere-a-connu-un-declassement-tres-important\/\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/putsch.media\/20241220\/interviews\/interviews-franc-tireurs\/erwan-davoux-sous-hollande-et-macron-notre-politique-etrangere-a-connu-un-declassement-tres-important\/\"><\/a>Between colonial heritage, the rise of rival influences, and widespread loss of trust, how can France hope to regain its place on a continent undergoing a full transformation? A no-holds-barred analysis of the priorities that must be redefined to definitively turn the page on past failures.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>In your opinion, what should be the priorities of a new French African policy in order to avoid past mistakes?<\/strong><br>France miscalculated the extent to which West Africa wanted to move from formal independence to real independence. It took too long to realize the renewed pan-African sentiment and failed to respond to it.<br>Our leaders even spent their time contradicting the principles they were enunciating with inappropriate behavior. When Emmanuel Macron visited the University of Ouagadougou in November 2017 to lay the foundations for a renewed relationship between France and West Africa, he made proposals and outlined interesting and promising paths. But, he contradicted the spirit of his speech with his condescending and contemptuous behavior. \u00abHe went to fix the climate,\u2019 he would say of the Burkinab\u00e9 President. Unfortunately, this kind of tasteless nonsense will be repeated. In this sense, he will perpetuate the antics and dubious jokes of Fran\u00e7ois Hollande, who would dare, for example, to say \u00bbManuel Valls has returned safely from Algeria,\u00ab even though restoring a relationship of trust with Algeria was one of his priorities.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Emmanuel Macron will also try his hand at foreign policy in the famous \u00abat the same time\u00bb approach, in Senegal for example. He will send a delegation from the African cell to meet the then President, Macky Sall, while also instructing the mission to meet Ousmane Sonko in a discreet manner as well. What naivety and amateurism...<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Without respect for its partners, there can be no sound and healthy policy. To begin with, we must treat each other as equals; France has nothing to dictate to its African partners. Trust is currently broken. It is easy to break it, but much more laborious to rebuild it. France must work to develop its soft power: the Francophonie, French teaching abroad, the sharing of expertise, vocational training, culture, and strive to regain sympathy before hoping to restore strong diplomatic relations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">We can, fortunately, also count on the mistakes of our opponents. It is likely that those who have taken advantage of the rejection of French politics will, in turn, be subject to great distrust, as their actions appear for what they are: imperialists with behaviors that reveal a total lack of understanding and empathy towards the populations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-quelle-approche-plus-coherente-et-efficace-recommanderiez-vous-pour-redefinir-les-relations-de-la-france-avec-ses-partenaires-africains\"><strong>Which more coherent and effective approach would you recommend to redefine France\u2019s relations with its African partners?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">First of all, we must stop claiming privileged relations with African leaders while presenting Africans themselves through the sole negative lens of the migration risk. Our relations with Africa are not limited to that; far from it!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">The military bias has also served us well. Fran\u00e7ois Hollande\u2019s only African policy has been limited to interventions in Mali and the Central African Republic\u2026 The misfortune of our African friends is to exist. Jean-Yves Le Drian, then Minister of Defense, greatly unbalanced the policy conducted in Africa, with the military taking over from the political sphere. Unfortunately, armed operations without an inclusive political process to resolve the crisis lead to nothing but chaos, and nature hates emptiness\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">That is exactly what happened in the aforementioned two countries. Failing to anticipate the situation, France was forced out of the way to make way for the Russians. It itself helped install Wagner and then Russian troops in Africa. In fact, when the Central African president demanded weapons to equip his embryonic army, Fran\u00e7ois Hollande hesitated. Then Emmanuel Macron took the matter to the Security Council. A windfall for the Russians, who responded quickly and even beyond what the Central African authorities had requested. The process was then set in motion: sending trainers and advisers, supplies of new weapons requiring the dispatch of more and more military or paramilitary personnel\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">France thought it was in conquered territory and it belatedly and with meager means apprehended the Russian, Chinese, and Turkish influences that were working against it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Our authorities always lag behind and have difficulty gauging the state of mind of African public opinion. By proposing to drastically reduce its military presence in Africa, France thought it could please its partners. What could have been considered a breakthrough just five years ago is now viewed as a means of \u00absaving face.\u00bb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">We must put an end to this practice of \u00abspecial envoys,\u00bb this parallel diplomacy that leads to no proven results. And we must start by choosing specialists in Africa for the Elys\u00e9e African cell. This seemed to be simple common sense and is no longer the case.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">France\u2019s policy in Africa must be reformulated in a collegial manner, involving diplomats, researchers, members of African diasporas, entrepreneurs established in Africa, and overseen by the Quai d\u2019Orsay. It must be multidimensional and based on a sound diagnosis and comprehensive analysis.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-pensez-vous-que-la-france-sera-soumise-a-une-vassalisation-tout-important-sous-donald-trump-que-sous-l-administration-biden\"><strong>Do you think that France will be subjected to as much vassalization under Donald Trump as under the Biden administration?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Unfortunately, I think so. Trump has shown no great consideration for Emmanuel Macron. Yet, from the moment he took office in July 2017, when Donald Trump visited Paris, the latter wanted to showcase a one-way friendship. This recent handshake, coupled with the recent video footage in which Trump makes fun of the French President and even threatens to possess \u00abdocuments,\u00bb add to a series of unflattering videos in which Trump makes a mockery of the French President and even threatens to possess \u201cfiles.\u201d With such an unbalanced personal relationship without Emmanuel Macron wavering, I see no possible improvement.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">There is, structurally, an ideological infodemic since the neo-conservative left took control of the Quai d\u2019Orsay. From Kouchner to Fabius, through S\u00e9journ\u00e9, this line has prevailed, strongly Atlanticist to the detriment of the Gaullist-Chiracian line. With the same diplomats holding this ideology in key positions, with great continuity in this area between Hollande and Macron.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">I will take a very significant example. Jacques Chirac had considered France returning to the integrated command of NATO. But he wanted this to happen in a framework where France would exert its full weight. The prerequisite was that France obtain NATO\u2019s active command in Naples, in accordance with its Mediterranean vocation. He had written in a message to Bill Clinton: \u00abIt is of capital importance.\u00bb Faced with the American refusal, Jacques Chirac stopped everything. Nicolas Sarkozy, for his part, went along with the status quo, without achieving anything in return. Since then, France has abandoned everything that made its foreign policy unique and powerful, content to try to appear as the United States\u2019 best ally, which, in turn, doesn\u2019t really know where it\u2019s going.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-peut-on-dire-que-l-effondrement-de-la-diplomatie-francaise-s-est-acceleree-sous-emmanuel-macron\">Can we say that the collapse of French diplomacy has accelerated under Emmanuel Macron?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">We have fallen one step behind after the departure of Jacques Chirac, who was the last President to lead a great foreign policy because he had the required experience, founding principles, and a keen sense of the message that France should carry out in the world, strengthened by its history and the values it embodies.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Nicolas Sarkozy had a talent for leadership and for creating coalitions that temporarily masked the diplomatic decline. But it turns out that the decisions made at the time had a detrimental effect in the medium and long term.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">With Hollande and Macron, we have completely entered into what Georges Malbrunot and Christian Chesnot rightly called \u00abthe decline of France\u00bb. We are no longer even able to deceive ourselves.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Fran\u00e7ois Hollande came to power without any other experience than the lens of the socialist international. He had, for example, never visited China before being elected. He pursued an extremely partisan foreign policy. He sowed the seeds of the Franco-German divorce, acting as party leader, for example receiving the leader of Angela Merkel\u2019s rival German SPD in the Elys\u00e9e Palace during the election campaign.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">En Tunisie, il a soutenu la Troika  (2012-2014) noyaut\u00e9e par les islamistes sous pr\u00e9texte que deux de ses amis y figuraient, sans r\u00e9el pouvoir. En Afrique, il a privil\u00e9gi\u00e9 la relation avec les chefs d\u2019Etats appartenant \u00e0 ce club socialiste.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">While Fran\u00e7ois Hollande and Emmanuel Macron are two very different personalities in foreign policy, the latter has merely been the continuation of the former. There is a certain logic: the same diplomats are placed in strategic positions, driven by the same ideology.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-comment-analysez-vous-la-gestion-de-la-politique-internationale-par-emmanuel-macron-depuis-son-accession-au-pouvoir-nbsp\">How do you analyze Emmanuel Macron\u2019s management of international politics since his accession to power?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">It is probably, without exaggeration or partisan bias, the area that has been the most completely wrong since Emmanuel Macron came to power.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">We have been driven out of Africa; we are now almost hated in the Arab world (without any positive counterpart on the Israeli side) or considered a second-rate partner at best. The Franco-German couple is broken; we are not leaders on any major issue.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">We have failed in our primary mission as a member of the Security Council: to uphold international law and abandon the promotion of multilateralism. We no longer play the role of facilitator between the North and the South as in the past; we are now a secondary member of the \u00abWestern bloc.\u00bb We have been reduced to purely declaratory diplomacy, lacking influence.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-quel-est-l-etat-de-la-desagregation-du-quai-d-orsay-quelles-en-sont-les-raisons\">What is the state of the disintegration of the Quai d\u2019Orsay? What are the reasons for it?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">The Quai d\u2019Orsay is no longer a central player in France\u2019s foreign policy. All decisions are taken in the Elys\u00e9e Palace. This dysfunction was introduced by Nicolas Sarkozy and amplified by these successors. At least Nicolas Sarkozy took the precaution of surrounding himself with extremely experienced diplomats in the diplomatic corps, which was not the case with his successors.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Emmanuel Macron\u2019s distrust of diplomats is well known to everyone. In fact, he broke the diplomatic corps just as he broke the prefectural corps. Two bodies of excellence.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">The expertise that obviously exists at the Quai d\u2019Orsay is marginalized, and close associates of Emmanuel Macron are being placed in key positions to keep the Ministry of Europe and Foreign Affairs under close surveillance.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">To top it all, the arrival of the two last ministers who had no expertise in the matter reduced the Quai d\u2019Orsay\u2019s role to that of a \u00abministry of words,\u00bb one of hastily issued press releases with no real impact on the events.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Finally, a human resources policy worthy of the name still needs to be implemented. Far from fanciful appointments, flattery, or the latest fads.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-nos-dirigeants-politiques-actuels-sont-ils-plus-accultures-sur-les-questions-internationales-que-leurs-predecesseurs\">Are our current political leaders more culturally aware of international issues than their predecessors?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Yes, absolutely. When he came to power, Nicolas Sarkozy had an international experience under a particular prism, that of the former Minister of the Interior he was. These two successors have none. However, foreign policy is not invented on the fly. It is not enough to swallow notes, publish agreed communiqu\u00e9s, and attend international summits to influence world affairs. It requires a long apprenticeship that is gained through travel abroad that allows one to develop networks, to intimately know one\u2019s counterparts, to absorb a sensibility, to tame foreign cultures, and thus to be able, through a bold, distinctive, avant-garde foreign policy, to win the sympathy of the public and enable France to solve the square of the circle: How can a medium-sized country with a population on a global scale be able to influence world affairs? The answer is to adopt a grand foreign policy. That is the famous phrase of General de Gaulle: \u00abIt is because we are no longer a great power that we need a great policy; because if we do not have a great policy, just as we are no longer a great power, we will be nothing.\u00ab<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">In the absence of a previous international track record and while simultaneously putting the Quai d\u2019Orsay on the defensive, the presidents expose themselves to the risk of incoherence and diplomatic gaffes. This is what most of the French ambassadors stationed in the Arab world rightly denounced in a letter in November 2023, deploring incoherence, total alignment with the Netanyahu government, and the massive loss of influence for France that resulted. The whistleblowers were severely admonished for their overcautiousness (in reality a sharp sense of their mission to serve France) by the small masters of the Macron clique, promoted to positions for their loyalty and not their experience.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Or, worse still, to take up the idea of the last visitor of the evening. This is what led Emmanuel Macron, for example, to propose \u00aban international coalition against Hamas on the model of that against Daesh,\u00bb which sparked ridicule, disbelief, and even consternation from those to whom it was intended, the Israeli authorities.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Reconstructing France\u2019s foreign policy will be one of the essential tasks of the next head of state.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Africa, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, American dependence, Ukraine, the place and role of the Quai d\u2019Orsay Erwan Davoux: \u00abUnder Hollande and Macron, our foreign policy 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